about his connection with kellogg. brian, so long from kansas city. >> brian: yeah. watch the all-star game tonight. should be fun. 83 in a row. see you later. >> gretchen: see you tomorrow. bill: nicely done. much good morning, everybody on a tuesday. gearing up for a new showdown in the health care fight only hours away from a major debate on capitol hill. house republicans set to introduce the repeal of the legislation yet again. good morn, everybody. we'll see where this leads. welcome to "america's newsroom." how are you doing? martha: i'm doing well. good morning to you. i'm martha maccallum. we've got a grueling five-hour debate coming up. the question is still out there. can the health care bill still be repealed? and the two sides, no big surprise, they are as polarized on this as ever. watch. >> the president said famously over and over and over if you like what you have you can keep it.

well people now know if they like what they have they probably won't be able to keep it. many have already lost their coverage than they have before. it is more expensive than anybody ever imagined. original estimates $900 billion. now $1.76 trillion for the next 10 years and only going higher. as a physician i can tell you it is destructive, destructive of the physician-patient relationship. >> seems like almost every other day we another effort to repeal the same thing over and over again. like groundhog day around here. i'm tired of it. and i think the american people are tired of it. bill: we'll soon find out. house republicans predict several democrats will join in the repeal vote. steve centanni in washington. what is the gameplan for today, steve? >> reporter: hi, bill. they debate the rule for debating issue. they actually debate the issue. tomorrow they hold an actual vote on repeal. immediately after the high fourth court's 5-4 ruling on the law.

republicans vowed to hold another repeal vote. this is nothing new. just like times before. this appeal is bound to pass the republican-controlled house. the president will not take it up and the president would veto it if both houses passed it. nonetheless, republicans are adamant. >> we want to repeal so we can replace. there is need. we recognize the need. priority is job creation and economic growth. this is a need that has to be addressed. >> reporter: the only question today as you mentioned how many moderate democrats might join the repeal effort to gain political cover in their upcoming re-election debate. bill: that will be something to watch. how are democrats in general acting to repeel effort, steve? >> most of them think the house is wasting its time even though the law itself is unpopular. individual parts of it do enjoy widespread support like eliminating the ban on coverage for preexisting conditions and that lifetime cap. listen. >> i have to be honest, in the time that i was home over the last 10 years --

days, not that many people mentioned affordable care act that they liked it and supreme court upheld it. >> reporter: we're likely to hear a fiery debate but it is largely symbolic. bill: steve centanni leading coverage on that story. mart that has more. martha: hear is the time line where we've been on the health care saga. march 2010, president obama signed the affordable care act into law. on november 2011 the supreme court agreed to hear a legal challenge. that came after 26 states believed the health care act was unconstitutional based mostly in part on the commerce close. two weeks ago the supreme court ruled the individual mandate portion of the health care law should be upheld within congress's power under taxes clause which is surprising way to get at. that's why we're still here today. bill: president obama get being new support, new

support from a democrat who once objected to part of his tax plan. very different from what senator charles schumer said earlier this year. >> just one final point and this is a placed administration and i have disagreed and that is on 250,000 versus a million. i know revenue concerns with 250,000. the problem in my state i imagine in certainly in senator menendez, senator kerry, senator cantwell's state, there are a lot of people who make above it 50 who aren't rich. property much more expensive, taxes higher, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. bill: so a bit of a change in mind or heart now or perhaps both in a statement schumer saying this. at this make or break moment for the middle class we stand in total solidarity with president on the need to restore fairness in our tax system, end quote. what does the tax rate extension and tax hike mean for millions of americans? ed henry breaks that down live from the white house a bit later today.

martha: this is a very interesting story in light of the economic situation in the country. a massive deficit has led to a drastic measure in one city. in scranton, pennsylvania, the state's largest, 6th largest city i should say they now face a $16.8 million budget hole in scranton, okay? so the mayor responded by cutting every state and public worker's pay to the federal minimum wage of only $7.25 an hour. so for some workers, they saw a more than 66% cut when they opened up those paychecks. i can imagine they were pretty furious about the whole thing. now they are suing. all of this turned into a huge fight between the mayor and city council and the workers. listen to some of this. >> we apologize for the mayor. that he acted in this illegal and unilateral manner. >> the reality because council underfunded their budget we don't have any

money. we have enough money to pay minimum wage. if more money comes in we'll be happy to make payment. >> we ought to be paid. they risk their lives every single day of the week. >> i don't have a printing press. i can't create money i don't have. we represent the city. doesn't whether the council likes the mayor or doesn't like the mayor. it is about services of city and that's what we're obligated to provide. martha: this story could be playing out in a lot of places in america. we're joined by charles payne fox business network. >> reporter: good morning. >> fill in some of the blanks. public workers, firefighters were getting paychecks $1500 every two weeks. this time they opened it up it was only $600 in the paycheck. that is a huge drop. the mayor says has only $5,000 in city accounts. hoped to raise tabses to cover the short fall. but they wouldn't let him pass it. what do you think? >> reporter: grim is the main word to be used here.

we recently had the largest city in america thus far file for bankruptcy. almost all boils down to the same thing. these obligations, very same city workers enjoy amazing lavish pension obligations and kind of tough to have it both ways particularly in cities like scranton where things haven't gone so well over last two decades. let me give you an example, martha. from january 2007 to april this year the people, pensioners have taken out 55 million in pensions but workers only put in 22 million. at some point you go down to zero. you know, according to outsiders who looked at this, they should have been putting in up to 10, 11 million dollars a year, minimum contribution from police and firemen have 3.3 million. at some point you can't have it both ways. it is draconian. absolutely no doubt about that. by the same token the other measures are 78% property tax. ultimately destroys your town. who wants to pay 78% on your

home? or firing people. so the, the options are extraordinarily limited for all around. that is why it is a grim and sad sorry. martha: it is incredible to hear city like scranton has $5,000 left in their account according to the mayor what he said. he wanted to raise taxes by 29% in order to cover the short fall. where is the discussion changing pension agreements going forward or everybody under a certain age? >> reporter: right. martha: those kind of things that will solve the long-term problem that you're addressing because there aren't enough pensioners, workers to pay for the pensioners. >> reporter: you think a town like scranton that hit the proverbial brick wall we talk about, america is on the same path. they have actually hit the wall. the idea is let's raise taxes again. instead of the fiscally responsible thing. you have to do something about the pensions. they have to rewrite the contracts. they have to make it where if the term shared sacrifice,

means anything, that means everyone will have to have skin in the game. everyone will get their knees nicked a little bit. martha: scranton bill be a story we'll hear in so many cities or towns across the country. we heard it from a lot of them. record record good morning. bill: scranton got a lot of headlines. it is by far the not the only city struggling with these issues. some cities going broke without options. 13 cities counties other government entities filed for bankruptcy protection. the highest filing in one year in nearly two decades. harrisburg, pennsylvania tried to declare bankruptcy last october as you of too much debt in their town. but their filing was rejected by a bankruptcy judge. martha: most of the country may be getting a little bit of a break from the pruitt tall heat we've had. we got a little bit of a break in new york city, but not in america's southwest, folks. look at temperatures in las vegas and phoenix?

113 degrees is what we saw. we're not seeing it on that map. we say 113 degrees. folks are doing whatever they can to try to stay cool. >> it is hot. can only come out a little bit. >> can't keep them inside. there summertime. way too much energy. put them out here let them run around in the water, perfect. >> being in cool water. keeps you nice and cool. once you get hot again, get back in the water. martha: i love that mom. can't keep them inside. let the kids out and run around. staying hydrated is key. they're recommending cringing -- drinking three times the normal amount of water. drink and drink and drink all the time. bill: when you get warm, get back in the water. meanwhile signs of relief in fire-ravaged colorado. there is rain finally but the downpours turning some denver area streets into rivers. when you compare that to the wildfires destroying hundreds of homes in that

state, folks living there, will take it. >> were you happy to see it rain today? >> absolutely. >> i just hit a wall of rain and it was, a complete downpour. we need it. all the fires, just, get away from the heat. bill: sun in the forecast for denver today so folks can expect to dry out a little bit. you said it though. there is some relief in the east especially around this area. it was hot as a hair dryer for about a week and a half. martha: this morning when i went out it said 71 on the reader in the car. i thought, that sounds really nice. we'll have to put on a little sweater. totally different. we're getting started, right, bill? we have a lot to do this morning. we have new reaction from lawmakers following the president's threat to veto any bill that extends the bush-era tax cuts across the board. he does not want that. this senator, you're looking at right there, senator orrin hatch of course, he says the president, he is

telling the president there is no reason to fight about all of this. so he will join us live. bill: also brand new polling numbers on race for the white house. these are fascinating. what americans are saying today about well, these two guys in a head-to-head battle. martha: plus five people charged in connection with the death of border patrol agent brian terry. so what does this mean in the fast and furious investigation. that's next. >> it is my hope that the ears that have already taken place -- arrests that have already taken place and information provided in the announcement, those indictments and the public's assistance we're asking for today will lead to information concerning the whereabouts of these fugitives. ♪ don't our dogs deserve to eat fresher less processed foods

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"abc news/washington post poll" finds this. president obama and governor romney at 47% each. 119 days away from the vote. "real clear politics" average of recent polling shows the president up about 2 1/2 points. when you put all the polls together. stephen hayes, senior writer "weekly standard" and fox news contributor. good morning to you. >> good morning bill. bill: haven't changed much, dead-even, 47-47. this is what we find in the polling of those who believe the country is on the wrong track, they're at 63%. how does that play? >> well that is not a good number for the president obviously but as you suggest that number hasn't changed much. overall takeaway number hasn't changed much but there are bunch of interesting internal numbers that suggest certain ways mitt romney is doing well and other ways barack obama is holding off his challenger. bill: the areas where you find positive news for the president, he is a likeable guy. he sweeps the floor on romney when it comes to likeability. however when it comes to

independents, this surprised me, romney is up 14 points. >> yeah. this is very interesting. i mean that is the best number romney had among independents in this poll for quite some time but president obama, as you say, has a 36 point advantage on likeability. that is if you go back historically past couple decades most likeable candidate won every election going back to 1980. that is certainly something the obama campaign will be celebrating in chicago. bill: how would romney's team counter that? what do you do? >> there are a number of things you could do. you could try to make president obama less likeable. the way mitt romney talked about president obama thus far underscores the idea that he is likeable. mitt romney one of his main criticisms, look the president is a nice guy just in over his head. one wonders if the romney camp sees the numbers about might try to diminish the advantage for president obama going after president obama in a much more tough way.

bill: all right. we'll see how that changes. one more thing i want to show our viewers on the economy. 54% disapprove how the president is handling the economy. that 54% number is within two or three points when it comes to health care and immigration as well. that is not good news, if you're running this thing out of chicago, are you? >> no, bad news. certainly on issues as issues that is bad news for president obama. in other ways when if you look deeper into the numbers, some of the things aren't as bad as they appear on the surface. president obama has an sad advantage on mitt romney when voters ask who identifies you with you, who understands your economic problems. when asked who presented a better plan or better vision president obama has a slight advantage over mitt romney as well. bill: one quick thing. mitt romney is in colorado today. the colorado back in 2008 went blue, went for president obama. he beat john mccain by about nine points but on the colorado map, blue is democrat, red is republican, there are three counties in this state that accounted for one-third of the entire

vote. one is larimer, county. that is where you find fort collins up in the north. around jefferson county, that is denner have. here is jefferson, county southwest of denver. an a rapahoe county. president obama cleaned up on all the counties. mitt romney is way out here in grand junction. this is mesa county went two to one for mccain over senator obama four years ago. why is mitt romney out there do you believe? >> that is a good question. this is one of those, people are surmising this is likely to be a base election. so you want to get out your voters and one of the things that we've seen in the "washington post" abc poll and other polls that president obama, retains an enthusiasm advantage over mitt romney. so, perhaps that is explained by the fact that mitt romney is there because he wants to get republicans, get conservatives, who are already self-identified republicans enthusiastic about his bid and showing his face out there does

that. bill: drive up the numbers in rural areas. hold onto that theme. steve fenn hayes, thank you from washington today. nice to see you. >> anytime, bill. bill: martha? martha: there is a new survey out of doctors and what a large majority of them said because the way they consider this new health care law. you will be surprised by this. bill: also a scary encounter in the ocean, yeah, that's what you see. now we hear from the man who came face-to-face with that shark. hear is the guy in the kayak. >> my daughter was talking about how they had been seeing sharks, great whites and we should be careful. i was telling her the chance of seeing a shark and how small it was. this summer, save up to 30%, plus get up to $100 on us. welcome to hotels.com. anti-aging cream undeniably.

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bill: here we go. cue the "jaws" theme. it is that season. a kayaker getting the jolt

of his life when i spot as shark trailing him off the coast of cape cod. we talked about this yesterday. the picture, it is stunning. he is telling us what he felt when he was in the kayak. >> you get a sense the shark was chasing you? >> yeah. he was lined right up with me. so, yeah, it was an eerie feeling. i had a sense maybe, this is it. i did what i could do and paddled. >> were you thinking about your son and daughter on the beach? >> they were right in front of me yelling. thank god i'm here. bill: to talk about it. taggers were out to search sharks to tag so they can analyze them. they're analyzing photo to see if this is a great white or smaller basking shark. martha: i don't think it is a smaller basking shark. we had a shark expert on yesterday that the size of the fin would be a 14 foot great white. nobody is better to ask than that gentleman.

he was right alongside it. bill: you said first time he was ever in a kayak and told his daughter, don't worry about it. martha:, shas. don't worry about it. what is likelihood you will see a shark? now they have a different story to tell. he was scared. you could tell, right? could blame him, right? there are new reports this morning that pollution may be to thank for the lush forest across our nation's southeast. a region that generally absorbs a little more carbon than it produces apparently. scientists fear that could soon change. what that is all about? jonathan serrie is on it. he is live in atlanta. so pollution helping the for i'ves. doesn't sound like it adds up? >> reporter: seems counter intuitive. of all things sound too good to be true there is a catch but according to the study by auburn university the south has plenty of young forests. as these young plants grow, they take in huge amounts of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. according to the auburn

study published in the journal, ecosystems, air pollution in the form of carbon and nitrogen has served as fertilizer over the years, actually speeding the growth of these young forests. listen. >> in the short term increase will be up ticking but that is not guaranty for long. >> reporter: although the southeast leads the nation in reducing greenhouse gases the studies lead author, warns that the fertilization of effects of carbon emissions are soon temporary and may soon be overshadowed by damaging effects of other pollutants as ground level ozone as the region's urban centers continue to spread outward. martha, there is the catch. martha: there is the catch. what do researchers is the solution to all of this? >> reporter: the professor thinks there needs to be careful urban planning and air monitoring.

he believes with that in place the southern forests have the potential to maintain the region's enviable position of being the nation's leading carbon reducer, instead of going back to being a carbon producer. martha? martha: very interesting. jonathan, thank you. >> reporter: certainly. bill: there is a new showdown over the president's tax rate extension for only some americans. have you heard? >> health care inflation is incredibly regressive, hitting poor and middle income americans the hardest. and for all of its 2700 original pages and new spending and taxes, obamacare does absolutely nothing to address health care costs. bill: and there's more because senator orrin hatch is live on that topic in a matter of moments. we'll talk to him. martha: video sure to put any parent on the edge of their seat. look what this young girl did when her ride made a stop.

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to block any bill that would extend the bush tax rates across the board. he is determined to raise taxes for top-earning americans. he says families earning less than $250,000 deserve to keep the current tax rate we're under at the moment. i'm joined by utah senator orrin hatch who is the ranking member on the senate finance committee. good morning. nice to have you with us. >> good to be with you. martha: good to have you, sir. the president says if any bill is brought to him, this would be similar to what he was in favor of last time, to extend all of the bush tax cuts, he says this time he will veto. what do you say, sir? >> well the president is playing class warfare as usual. back in 2010, he said that if we increased tax it is would really hurt the economy because it would be mainly taxes against small businesses. his approach would tax about 940,000, almost a million small businesses. that is 25% of the total workforce in this country. he said back in 2010 it would damage the economy to

do that. now he is willing to do that because he is playing class warfare. he knows we're not going to do that. but he wants to make as many political points as he can. that is not a very good political point in my opinion. then they go back to, well president clinton raise taxes. yeah, he did raise taxes but he also cut spending. this president hasn't cut a dime of spending. spending has gone up dramatically. and to increase taxes on those making less than, more than $250,000, he doesn't get that much of a payback. it may damage the economy. in the end, we're just going to have more spending without any real reductions that are necessary to get this economy moving again. martha: so you say it will not happen the way he is laying it out. that it couldn't pass on capitol hill the way he is laying it out. in terms of the politics of all of this, so, i can only assume that he is making a bet that people will be on his side. and the polls seem to back

that up. if you ask people, do you think that people making over 250,000 should pay a little bit more, should pay their fair share as he puts it? the polls seem to back that up, most people agree that that is an okay thing to do. so how does all that play out politically in the end for your party? >> well, keep in mind, if he continues with that, we're not going to allow that to happen. if that happens, he is going to find a real, real problem with the economy. if he, would happen to win on that, he is not going to win on that. the house will not vote on that. we all know that. martha: what about the presidential election? you're claiming that is what it is really all about. can that help him win in the presidential election? >> i don't think so. mitt romney can explain that is not economically a sound way to go. look, the president doesn't know how to create jobs. he has absolutely zero background in job creation. he spent most of his life as a community organizer. he was a part-time law professor or should i say

law instructor where he was. i give him credit for all that. that doesn't mean creation of jobs. not only that, president clinton is against this. former president clinton. alice rivlin -- rivlin is against it. larry summers his former chief economic advisor says it is not right thing to do. if you look at hammering 940,000 small businesses it doesn't make any sense. martha: yeah. >> produce to, to say that the wealthy, if you hammer the well think like he like to do, i'm not sure you get that much money in revenues. they find ways leaving country or putting businesses overseas or finding a way not to put up to high taxes. he is talking about raising taxes well over 40%. my gosh, not anybody i know thinks that is a good idea. martha: according to the treasury it would raise $85 billion. according to the treasury's numbers as well, that is what the federal government spends in about eight days.

so about eight days worth of spending. as you point out, there is not a lot of talk about spending cuts. so i go back to my other point. it can only bring us to the conclusion he believes that this will win with the american people. this idea of like, they need to pay their fair share, folks. that it is resonating. that it is working for him. >> well i don't think that it is. i think americans people, well, there is problem here. we know the bottom 51% of all households according to the committee on taxation, they don't pay any income taxes at all. i think democrats would like to get that to 60% of the people who are totally dependent upon all the rest of the people who work, in other words dependent on the federal government. that is not the way to pull our country out of the doldrums it is in. it is clearly not the way that anybody with an economic background would want to advocate. and i have to say, this president has no basic knowledge or ability to create jobs. his lifetime exposure, though important and intelligent and all that,

really had nothing to do with creation of jobs or creation of opportunities for people to get out and work and especially small business people at that. martha: what do you think americans can assume, if this goes through, if he is able to raise taxes you say he probably won't, for sake of our discussion if he gets extra $85 billion for those people over 250,000, what does that money go towards? how is he proposing the government will use that $85 billion to try to create jobs? will they be government-generated? >> when are we going to wake up in this country. we know these democrats and especially this president will not use that money to pay down the national debt, which is astronomical right now. our national debt is 103% of the gdp just to put that in perspective, spain is in real trouble over in europe and its national debt is less than 70% of the gdp. we're talking about, europeanizing america and making it even less responsive than it is, responsible than it is today. that comes from a president

who really has zero background and economics and job creation. that is why mitt romney will win this election. people realize he has ability to do so. he has the background to do so. they deep down feel this president isn't up to the job. martha: this is seizing on the central question of this election. and how he fixes the economy. shah so much, senator orrin hatch. always a pleasure. >> nice to be with you. good to be with you. bill: 42 minutes before the hour. 80,000 jobs in june, well below number economists say need to show a healthy economy here. as unemployment benefits for thousands of americans expiring in three states. 29,000 americans no longer eligible because they have been out of work for more than a year and a half. rick leventhal is on the story live in new york city. rick, good morning. >> reporter: bill, what we're talking about here the federal extended benefits program which gave out of work americans up to 20 weeks of extra cash. a little complicated.

i will try to explain it. if a state's average jobless rate for the past three months isn't higher than a similar period during the past three years, those extended federal benefits are no longer paid. in other words if a state adds jobs like new jersey did it is likely to lose the federal help. that means tens of thousands americans collecting unemployment the longest, some cases up to 99 weeks aren't getting it anymore. nearly30,000 new jersey residents got their final checks. idaho is the only state left that still qualifies. >> critical to the half million americans who were relying on it to meet their basic needs and, their to basically teed their families, pay their rents and mortgages. >> reporter: longer someone is out of a job, experts say more difficult it can be to find another job. they have outdated skills and less experience and employers might wonder why they haven't been punching a time clock for so long. bill: you mentioned new jersey, and interview we

just heard. this is not just a problem in new jersey, isn't it? >> no it is not. 35 states no longer qualify for the federal extended benefits program which can stretch to five months. this includes states with high out of work numbers, pennsylvania, nevada, california. unemployed workers can collect benefits up to 79 weeks until another federal program ends on december 29th. that is the key. if congress doesn't renew this emergency unemployment act, extended federal benefits program, then unemployed people will only be able to collect the state benefits. that taps out typically at 26 weeks. bill: becoming a a whole new group of americans unfortunately. rick leventhal thal on the streets of new york. thank you. >> reporter: sure. martha: 9:40 on the east coast. 10 minutes into the market day. look how they're moving at the moment. a little bid of upside about 82 points. investors reacting to small business index which is a

indication how small businesses are doing in america. on monday the dow industrials fell 36 points. we'll keep an eye out on the markets. a little bit of positive sentiment from another spain bailout program that has some people thinking that things are not as bad as they thought in europe. bill: the hole is deep. martha: exactly. bill: president obama is on the road today pushing his tax plan that would raise rates for anyone making more than $250,000 a year. how this might all affect you in that debate. we're live in washington to break it down. martha: a big reward being offered for the new suspects connected to the murder of border patrol agent brian terry. what this now means for the "fast and furious" investigation. we'll speak to a former department of justice spokesman on that, next. >> brian did ultimately come home that christmas. we buried him not far from the house. that he was raised in just prior to christmas day.

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bill: now we're learning the fbi is offering a million dollar reward to track down people responsible for killing border agent brian terry. two of the firearms found at the scene have been linked to that botched "fast and furious" gun-running sting. the fbi vowing justice for the terry family. >> brian terry was truly an agent's agent. he was a man of deep courage and honor. and that is something that despite all the atmospherics around this case, this prosecution team, the fbi and the border patrol are very focused on. we are not distracted. and i want the terry family to know, we will give everything to it and we will not rest until these individuals are brought to justice. bill: want to bring in matthew miller, former aide

to attorney general eric holder and department of justice spokesman. matt, good morning to you and thank you for your time. >> thank you. bill: there is an obvious question as the story contends to go on and on, why now? why the move by the fbi at this moment? >> it is hard to know at the outside but they make the decision when to unseal indictments based on law enforcement purposes. often times there are stings that they are running. suspects who don't know they're under suspicion. there may be confidential informants whose identities would be exposed if you move too quickly. they take these steps deliberately when they think exposing names, making them public and offering reward money could lead to their arrest. ultimately that is what the case is about and to bring the killers of brian terry to justice. >> in your experience do the announcements lead to an arrest? likelihood they're in mexico somewhere, right? >> they most likely are but often do lead to arrests. there have been number of arrests of different suspects at cartels over the

years in mexico after their names were pub la-sized and particularly after a reward has been offered. million dollars is lot of money. people in mexico know where they are and could be enticed by this. bill: yes, drug trade, money talks. we've seen that time and again. >> right. bill: darrell issa said the family should have had it done for them a long time ago. do you agree with that? >> you know, i saw chairman issa's comments. i think, you know, when he accuses career law enforcement, career law enforcement agents, career prosecutors taking politics into account and is really reprehensible and he doesn't show how law enforcement works. bill: if you were a member the terry family would be satisfied with a pace of this investigation? >> if i'm a member of the terry family i won't be is thefied until every person responsible for the death of brian terry is brought to justice. i can tell you that is how everybody in federal law

enforcement feels as well. there is brotherhood in federal law enforcement among agents and prosecutors. when one of them falls in the line of duty as brian terry has everyone works together to make it top priority to bring their killers to justice. for issa is trying to politicize to that is really beneath a member of congress. bill: what he has been saying for some time to trying to get answers. the question ultimately whether or not "fast and furious" was a good idea. was it? >> i don't think there was any question it was not a good idea. and, that's why the attorney general, when he found out about it, stopped it. but chairman issa had his answers about how this operation was devised. he knows it was a field level tactic in arizona. he has got all the documents that lead to that. but he has not been satisfied wit that. he moved to political comments like we saw from him yesterday. at the end of the day --. bill: others argue without his voice on this he would not be get anywhere with this investigation? >> oh, i think, i think that

is not accurate. long before chairman issa ever said a word about "fast and furious" the attorney general, eric holder, ordered an internal inspector investigation at doj i think we'll know investigation about several months. bill: he will continue but i don't want to deliberate on the air, listen you've given the i g8 0,000 documents. you've given us 8,000. something is not right. >> well there are reasons for that. there are documents that, doj is prohibited by law from giving to people outside the department. documents that are under grand jury seal for for example. they can give the documents to the inspector general and they have. but i think, back to your early he point, the investigation the most important here is finding out what happened to agent terry. bill: no question about it. no question about it. >> and bringing the killers to justice. bill: we've been in touch with the terry family. that is what they want to. in the end hopefully they

will get that sooner rather than later. matthew miller. thank you for your time. >> thank you. bill: martha, what's next? martha: a new poll says 82% of the physicians say the health care reform bill makes them think about quitting their profession, a shocking number. and what it could mean for your doctor possibly. bill: you want to be charged more for buying something with a credit card? it could happen. martha: not really. bill: we'll tell you why. ♪ . ♪

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bill: got some breaking news out of boston, massachusetts. a man in that state now plans to plead guilty to two charges of trying to fly

remote-controlled model airplanes packed with explosives into the pentagon or the u.s. capitol building. it is a story that broke last fall, last september. his name is rezwan a muslim american from ashland, massachusetts. expected to plead guilty to two charges. we'll watch that for you as news breaks here on "america's newsroom". martha: is this a troubling sign in health care? there's a new survey that just came out this morning by a doctor's group. look at this number. a whopping 83% of those surveyed said they are thinking about quitting the medical profession, and hanging up their stethoscopes all because of president obama's health care law. dr. marc siegel joins me, folks medical a-team. this is shocking study. what do you think about that? >> first of all martha, that is not the first survey. there have been several that shown there is deep doctor discontent.

deloitte had one. physicians foundation had a survey which showed this is erosion that is not exactly new. it preexisted obamacare but it has gotten worse under obamacare. deloitte had one, physicians foundation had one. doctor/patient medical association has one. all showing doctors being unhappy. martha, i don't think doctors are going to quit. i don't think that is the headline here. i think the headline though if you're going to go see your doctor you don't want your doctor to be unhappy. you don't want your doctor to say the conditions are no good for me, but i have no choice. i have to keep practicing because this is all i know. but i'm not happy. why wouldn't doctors be happy? doctors aren't happy because, first of all, now everyone says doctors aren't happy because it is all about money. it is not only about money. that is small part of it. doctors are unhappy because we're worried we won't be able to practice the way we used to. when modern technology comes undid the pike and really excited about it and want to

order it for our patients we're worried insurance won't cover it if it only works for small percentage of people. brand new cancer treatments, brand new surgical technologies are out are not things i can use on everyone. they're very expensive. i'm worried obamacare won't cover a lost these things. i'm worried with all the regulations coming in which makes it harder and harder for me to practice medicine, obamacare still is not saving money. martha: everyone will be covered. it will be great. what you need from healthcare you will get from the plan. >> what is deeply disturbing on the show, it may cost $1.7 trillion over the next decade for a bill that was supposed to save money. all the regulations are intended to save money but they're spending more and more money. doctors are working in a climate where we have more and more paperwork. we have less and less we can actually do. where we're paid less and the patient gets less. martha: most good doctors love their profession not only because they could make a nice living at it and that

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martha: president obama hitting the road to push his new tax extanks plan for those who make under $250,000. vowing to veto any plan that would include those that he considers to be rich and those who are making over $250,000 a year. that's how be how we start a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." what is it tuesday? bill: all day as a matter of fact. martha: good, we are on board. bill: i'm bill hemmer aeu lon along with martha maccallum.

martha:ed henry is with us this morning at the white house with more on this. the president dealing with opposition from his own party to some extent on all of this. how is he handling that? >> he's dealing with the facts that democrats have all kinds of different ideas about whether or not it makes sense to carve it out as the president did yesterday at just extending the tax rates for those making $250,000 a year or less. various democrats like nancy pelosi, even jesse jackson saying the cut off should actually be a million dollars a year or less. he's got to deal with that. the president's response has largely been that he thinks the focus should only be on the middle class, should only last for one year in terms of an extension. mitt romney firing away and saying that that is just going to crush jobs and be a massive tax increase for the rest of the country. take a listen. >> let's not hold the vast majority of americans and our entire economy hostage while we debate the merits of another tax cut for the wealthy.

>> the president's plan is aimed at small business and job creators, it will kill jobs in this country and hurt the middle class. the right answer is to extend the tax rates as they currently exist indefinitely, until we put in place an entirely new and reformed system. >> reporter: the president is saying if he gets a bill to his desk that extends all of the existing tax rates, including those for the rich, he will veto that. you'll remember there were similar threats from the white house back in 2010, and in the end they ended up giving in and extending all of the tax rates, all this expiring at the end of the year, martha gee said, well we're not going to raise taxes in a recession. now there is a bit of a different tone to all of that. how about this. ed president obama's campaign has really attacked governor romney on the issue of outsourcing. that may be coming back to bite him a bit winds, right. >> reporter: it could be. all this started with "the washington post" story that alleged that governor romney

when i was at bain capital was a pioneer at outsourcing. the romney campaign has denied that. they say fat check.org has shot down that allegation. there is news this morning that the romney camp might like voting liberal critics of the president saying he has not done enough to get stuff with china for example and protect u.s. jobs from being shipped overseas. i think the bottom line is that this president kicked up this controversy on outsourcing and now you see the republicans are firing back, martha. martha: very interesting. ed, thanks for being with us. bill: this is happening on the hill. this is house republican leadership talking about these tax extensions, tax cuts. all semantics to the side house republicans are in lock step in keeping all the bush taxes in place as they are, whether you make $250,000 a year, whether you make a million dollars a year, this will continue to be a

campaign issue. while that is happening, we mentioned the president is in iowa. during his visit there rapbs briebus will be there too. >> this is about raising taxes on small businesses, and that's why a lot of democrats don't agree with the president either. let's face it, he knows exactly what is going on. he knows this isn't going to pass an also knows that this is going to cut off 1% of the gross domestic product in this country when we are only growing at 1.6%. he's a smart guy. he knows this is all a sham and we need to call him on it. bill: in addition he went onto say thael be unveiling a new website that he says tells the truth about the outsourcing of american jobs an issue the obama

re-election campaign has been slamming romney on. watch out for that. martha: this whole conversation will be central to the election. tax hikes on those making $250,000 or more would bring in to the federal coffers about $85 billion in extra revenue every year. that sounds like a lot, of course, but the federal government is running a deficit of around $1.2 trillion every year. it's kind of like this extrapolation, if a family was basically $1,200 in the red, then they would only bring in $85 to pay that down, which really would be sort of a drop in the bucket, right? bill: we are talking about the future of small businesses and how they create jobs and stay in business. a new report for the national federation of independent business shows the optimism index among small business owners dropped to 91.4, the

lowest reading since october of last year. according to the group the nfib, it's a sign that economic growth slowed dramatically in the month of june. in a few moments we'll that you can to a small business owner about how optimistic he is about the future. also, we are keeping and eye on a growing power struggle heating up in egypt. the nation's islamist dominated parliament meeting today on mohammed morsi. who is really controlling egypt today, leland. >> that is the $1.3 billion question. that is how much the united states gives the egyptian army every year and they have counted on the egyptian army to keep control no matter who runs egypt. we all expected this public power struggle between the army

and between morsie of the muslim brotherhood. no one expected to happen. this he takes control of egypt from the army egypt all of a sudden will change very, very quickly. we need to look north to turkey to see what happened in that case. the turkish army was in control of the country, a nato member, a long u.s. ally, all of a sudden a strong islamist president took over. and turkey has changed from being a strong supporter of israel and the ooh neated states to a wildcard in the region. bill: what is at stake here, leland. >> reporter: the u.s. counts on egypt to protect its interests inside the middle east. you have the peace treaty of israel, cooperation with the united states and egyptian intelligence services and also the suez canal which egypt uses. president morsi would have a very different line towards the united states if he got control

of foreign policy, then the army does. if all of a sudden the army takes orders from morsi rather than morsi taking orders from the army, which is how people thought it would work there will be a lot of people nervous in d.c. while you may not want to bet against the egyptian army, consider this. bill, they have never been stronger than they are today, losing this power struggle doesn't bode well for their power in the future. bill: leland vittert live there in our mideast bureau. jerusalem today. leland. martha: back here at home 42-year congressional incumbent charlie ran ellis going to keep his seat in congress. his challenger has conceded after a heated race here in new york despite allegations of voter fraud and suppression that were leveled against the rangel campaign. >> i'm here to publicly concede that congressman rangel has won this race. my attorneys have advised me

that even though there are close to 2,000 invalid affidavit ballots that the math just doesn't work. martha: there you have it. rangel denies any allegations of wrongdoing and he says that he looks forward to one day working alongside his former challenger. bill: new numbers show labor unions spending far more on politics than what they report to the federal election commission. that is because they do not need to report the cash used in local campaigns and mobilizing members to vote a certain way. according to a new analysis from the "wall street journal" from 2005 to 2011 unions reported $1.1 billion on federal campaigns and lobbying to the fec. but labor department reports show unions spending an additional 3.3 billion on other political activities. martha: well, it is not over yet, folks, a new debate on capitol hill over the healthcare

law. five hours of debate begins today on repeal of that law. congressman randy forbes will be part of that and he will join us first in "america's newsroom." bill: some stores want to charge you more for using a credit card. every time you use it. we'llell you why. then this frightening scene here, watch. martha: a day at the beach takes a terrifying turn. what caused that girl to put her own life in danger, next. >> my friend was just like oh, my gosh, it's okay. it's okay. don't cry, don't cry. i said no, we're jumping. she says, what do we do? i said, drop your stuff and we're jumping. at shell, we believe the world needs a broader mix of energies. that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal.

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bill: a young girl in new jersey leaping for her life when a severe lightning storm pops out of nowhere. watch closely here.

i mean she made the decision. she was out of there. she was riding a ski lift on the jersey shore when it stalled in the midst of an electrical store. she said she could not risk sitting on the all-metal ride any longer and did that. >> we're three seats away from getting off and it stopped. okay we said we are about to get off for good. obviously we jinxed it. bill: she didn't break any bones. in the end she is okay. >> the latest survey indicates now that small business optimism is at its lowest level since october. 80% of the small businesses surveyed said they aren't going to make any hiring changes any time soon, and even more than that say that they are not going to be hiring any time soon.

so, here we have a situation where the economy is stalled and there is a lessening of confidence each and every day. what does the president do? he doubles down on his own failed policies. martha: that was just moments ago. the house majority leader eric cantor weighed in. republican lawmakers are now blasting president obama's push to raise taxes on high earners, those making over $250,000 a year because they say it will hurt america's small business owners out there. president obama says he has always been focused on helping small businesses. here is what he says about that. >> let me tell you. folks who create most new jobs in america of america's small business owners. and i've cut taxes for small business owners 18 times. [applause] >> since i've been in office. martha: the president says that he wants to extend the bush tax rates for families earning under

$250,000. that move would affect 3.5% of small business owners, but while that figure may seem small, that 3.5% actually accounts for more than 50% of the $1.3 trillion that are earned by small businesses. so it's a small percentage but it accounts for a lot of business in this country. i am very happy to be joined now this morning by marty davidoff who is a small business owner, a cpa and tax attorney. good to have you here this morning. >> good morning, martha. >> . martha: i've heard the president say that quite often. if his own defense he says look i've done great things for small businesses in this country, i've cut their taxes 18 times. are you feeling that in your business? what is the benefit of those cuts? >> some of those cuts -- most of those cuts i'm not feeling. some of them i am. there was a cut that took care of allowing me to deduct healthcare insurance against my social security taxes and that was something from the white house conference on small business in 1996, was one of our

most important issues. that has helped. a lot of the other cuts are temporary cuts. one is for healthcare, but i have to have average wages under $50,000. i pay my people better than that. martha: what is your reaction sort of in general to the president sort of looking at small businesses, saying i've already done what i'm going to do for you guys? i mean, how do you feel about that? >> well, i feel that small business needs a really big kick. we need capital. we don't necessarily need tax cuts. they are always nice. we certainly don't need tax increases. we need capital. rather than jobs credits we need capital invested and we need the government to come in and say we are going to do hundreds of thousands of loans to small business over a seven year period, 3 or 4% tax rate and allow them even if they don't have perfect credit, we'll give people who have no credit. money is what gets people hired not just job credits. martha: when you look at this over $250,000, and the reaction

from the republican side was that, you know, that is going to hurt a lot of small businesses. and then democrats jumped on that and said, oh, no it isn't. that number it actually includes law firms and hedge funds. what is your take on that? will it affect a lot of small businesses, what he's just stkphopb. >> it depend done? >> it depends where. 250,000 is different in new york city than in the midwest. it will affect small business reinvestment and leisure spending by small businesses, because now the tax cuts combined with the 3.8% that is going to come through the healthcare plus another .9% is going to be 8.3% increases which is a 23% increase in the bay. that is a huge tax increase for small business and they are the economic locomotive as you indicated at the beginning. in my opinion it's going to slow down a little bit especially from 250 to 500,000 in those businesses. maybe the threshold needs to be at a million, not 25 250.

martha: it seems that small business owners that i speak with talk about the overall climate a lot, they are concerned about healthcare and regulation, and that may be why we see this optimism index for small business owners that came out today at its weakest since i believe it was since last october. it's at 91.4%. when you talk to other small business owners what do they tell you? why are they depressed? why is the optimism down. >> i'm not seeing them, i'm seeing a mix. some of optimistic, some are pessimistic. what i'm seeing in hiring, that i'm able to hire people better now than only three months ago. three months ago i ran ad and got no qualified candidates. i recently ran ads three weeks ago and got three great candidates. martha: that's an improvement. >> more people are seeing a bad economy and more willing to come work for me, earlier it was a little harder to find employees. i think some of my businesses are doing well but some are

feeling the pain. martha: what is the number one thing that you think the president or governor romney who would like to be president that they could do to grease the engines of business in this country. >> provide low interest long term loans for small businesses to buy stuff, to buy hardware and technology. martha: good luck to you in your business. it's very nice to have you here today. thanks so much. >> you're welcome. bill: right about 20 minutes past the hour. vice president joe biden implying that republicans are intentionally trying to hurt the economy. we'll tell you exactly what he said and some republicans what they are saying about those comments. martha: brand-new video. remember this we showed you yesterday of that truck crash? reaction from people who saw this happen, they were right there. when we come back. >> we heard a like big noise, like it almost felt like the roof came down. >> this is my first reaction --

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martha: we have a new look at that frightening tractor/trailer crash. we first showed you this yesterday. watch as the truck comes down, barrels around, slams into an akron, ohio gas station. and now this new video shows us what it looked like from inside. watch. look at these people. she's screaming with her hands in the air when it tips over inside in front of the pumps. who could blame her, right? now we are hearing from the people working inside of the store at the time. >> we hear that like big noise. it almost felt like the roof came down. the driver did a good job, he avoid a couple of cars and nobody got hurt. >> i can't believe that no one was seriously hurt out of that. martha: unbelievable. no one can believe that part of this. look it goes flight between those two cars and slams into the tanks. you see this person jump out of the car, hands waiving in the

air. the driver blamed the accident on brake failure. bill: we have to buck up every time you use a credit card, every time. if you pay with plastic you could be paying more. matt mccall is the president of penn financial group with me in studio. good morning to you. this is a case that may be flying under the radar a little bit. there is a court challenge where all these retailers and stores are taking on the credit card companies, right? >> the retailer is actually paying a fee, assert percentage of that when somebody uses plastic. i pay close to 3% of the money that i'm bringing in i pay to the credit card in bank fees. if you're paying with cash to me, bill i'm actually making 3% more. so at the end of the day the retailer does their bottom line they are actually losing out on 3% every time somebody uses a credit card. bill: the stores prefer you to pay cash. right? but if you use a credit card, or

even a debit card, they are losing money effectively. >> yeah the retailers are losing money. this court case actually started back in 2005 they started this court case against visa and mastercard. it's going back that far and eventually it's going to come to the hilt at the end of this year. they are trying to settle out-of-court. the retailers are saying, listen, you have us in a stranglehold here. visa and mastercard have been saying for years you can't charge more for the same product if somebody pays with a credit card versus cash. bill: in that case the store would lose, continue. >> the store would lose. what the store wants to do is we want to charge you a little bit more, you and i the consumer to pay with a credit card versus paying with cash. let's say it costs one hundred dollars in cash it will be $103 if you pay with a credit cardment they want to make up for the fees that they are losing. bill: i think more and more people, especially younger americans they use only plastic, be it a tkeubt or credit card. >> that's all that i use.

i have $20 in my pocket if i'm lucky right now, probably in crumbled up ones. i pay with a credit card everywhere i go or plastic i should say wherever i go, whether it be debit or credit. there was the dodd-frank law that came out in the last year that lowered the fees for using a debit swipe. so if you pick debit versus credit they came out and said the credit card companies can charge half of what they were charging before. if you swipe the debit it's actually better than if you're charging with credit. bill: you mentioned an out-of-court settlement which may be the case. are the stores going to win and the consumers going to lose. >> it always happen that way. unfortunately you and i are going to lose. we are not going to stop using credit cards, we are not going to stop using plastic. it will be built in. the credit cards are going to win. the retailers are going to win. the banks w*eurpbgs you and i lose because we use plastic. bilnd everything became more expensive. >> exactly. bill: advice a mastercard, american express all that a big

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bill: lawmakers on the hill getting ready for another debate on healthcare. here we go, folks. the republican repeal bill will hit the floor later. some lawmakers already speaking out about what will happen, have a listen here. >> the american people gain from the repeal from this. we gain our freedom again. the difference between the liberals in this country and the conservatives, is the issue of freedom. >> my constituents in massachusetts are sick and tired of paying for people in texas who can afford coverage but choose not to get coverage. we end up paying for that. and the affordable healthcare act actually provides my constituents with a tax cut.

bill: we expect to hear a lot more about that. virginia congressman randy forbes is on the judiciary committee and is part of that debate. good morning, welcome back to "america's newsroom." >> good morning, bill. bill: we heard a sample there. what does this. though, get you? >> well, bill first of all it's what it gets the american people. right now the american people, the economy is the number one issue for them. they've looked over the last 41 months and had over 8% unemployment. they've seen a net loss in this administration of 473,000 jobs. this healthcare bill according to the congressional budget office will cost us 800,000 jobs. their defense cuts will cost us another million. and bill if you start cutting a million here and a million there of jobs you look out the window and that's why we're in the economic mess we're in now and we want to stop this hemorrhaging. bill: what is your sense about how many democrats will vote with republicans on this. >> you know i think we'll find a lot of individuals that cross the lines today and say this is not a partisan issue and they realize how bad this bill is,

that it was represented as one thing, and now they've come out, when they said it wasn't a tax, now they notice is a tax. when they said it was going to lower healthcare costs it's raised healthcare costs. when they said it won't cost jobs it has. when they said people could keep healthcare insurance now they know it can't. i think you'll find a lot of democrats joining with republicans to repeal it. bill: is that three democrats, 30? do you have a number. >> obviously we don't whip the democrats, we can't tell. i think you'll have a dozen or more democrats. there could be two dozen of them that cross those lines. and i think it will definitely be a bi-partisan vote. bill: you know what the white house is saying already, they'll veto this thing if it reaches the desk of the president. it's not likely to get there because it won't be brought up for a vote in the senate. the suggestion from the other side is this is just an act of futility. what would you say? >> bill, i think any time you're trying to save 800,000 jobs and save the healthcare system it's

not fight. i think what it will point out to the american people is if they really want to get rid of this bill we've got to get rid of the current senate leadership and a change in the white house, and i hope that is coming in november. bill: is your sense the longer the affordable care act is in place, that it will gain more support? i ask you that, because i saw a poll a bit earlier today that suggested it's even, it's like 48-48 about those who support and those who are against it. in the past those against it was slightly higher. what is your feeling on that in. >> bill, i think it's going to be exactly the opposite. when the american people realize we are already seeing as many as 70% of our doctors are thinking about leaving practice if this system stays in place. we are looking at adding another $500 billion of taxes to the american people. $500billion of cuts in medicare. the more the american people truly realize that i think their dissatisfaction for this bill is going to go up and they realize we want to improve the healthcare system but we can do

it in ways to find common ground without having a system that is going to cost us almost a million jobs. bill: you think about your home state of virginia. president obama won there in 2008. that had not been done by a democrat in 40-some-odd years. what are your constituents telling you? do you think you're on the right side of this repeal bill. >> our constituents are very, very concerned about the economy. they realize that this is a president that's had a net loss of 473,000 jobs as we mentioned, bill, but the big concern with the healthcare bill is the number of jobs it's going to cost and they are very concerned about making sure that we maintain the doctor-patient relay relationship. when you have this many doctors that are dissatisfied with this healthcare system it merits stepping back and taking another look. and that's what we will do. 800,000 jobs lost from this. a million jobs lost from defense cuts. that's what i think is going to change in virginia. bill: randy forbes, republican

from virginia. appreciate your time. we'll be waiting for the debate and the vote. thank you. what do you think atome? the question of the day on "america's newsroom" opens home page. do you favor repealing healthcare, yes or no. file your vote right now. we'll give you results at the end of our program today. check it out online. martha: that's not all that is happening on capitol hill this mourn. they are looking at the threat against the united states from cyber attacks. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington covering this story. why is cyber becoming such a dominant threat right now. >> good morning. the statistics are staggering. the number of cyber attacks jumped 44% last year and the head of the national security agency and u.s. cyber command in a rare public talk says the theft of american ideas is now the greatest transfer of wealth in history. he says what comes next may be worth. general keith alec apbd der says he's concerned about this transition from disruptive to

destructive attacks, simply meaning that your computer would no longer work as opposed to just being temporarily off line and he believes that those are coming now, martha. martha: what are the allegations against two chinese companies in all of this? >> the chair and vice chair of the house intelligence committee have intensified their investigation of companies called waway and gte, both are chinese tell louisian chinese telecoms. both companies have been pressed on multiple fronts, include their business strategy by committee investigators, and one allegation is that they may be using their cellphone technology as a back door to steal secrets. martha: that is a frightening situation. we'll see what comes out of it. thank you very much. bill: the vice president joe biden launching new accusations at republicans. why he now suggests that they are deliberately trying to, quote, hurt the question. bob and andrea will tackle

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bill: 18 minutes now before the hour. new evidence in the george zimmerman trial will be released this week including statements from new witnesses, as well as a sketch from the crime scene. a warning for hope solo the goal keeper for the women's national

soccer team being warned by the u.s. anti-doping agency after testing positive for a banned substance. she plans to play for the u.s. in the olympics in london later this month. the washington monument damaged in a big earthquake about a year ago could be closed until 2014. the worst of the damage located more than 400 feet up and will require thousands of man-hours to repair, which will be a good reason for "america's newsroom" to go on the road. martha: that is a good reason. back to washington now. vice president joe biden blasting republican lawmakers during a campaign event, suggesting that they are deliberately trying to hurt the u.s. economy for political purposes, saying this. quote, this is the first group of republican congressman who will not vote for things i know they are for, he says. they are voting against things. they absolutely, specifically voted for in the past. bob beckel is a form democratic

campaign manager. andrea ta tantero is here with us also. they are cohosts of the 5. i'm going to bet that you agree with joe biden, that they are obstructionists and they vote against them even if they like it. >> absolutely. the record is clear. it's not even a question of whether you agree with obama's jobs bills. they won't even bring them up. every time the unemployment figure comes out, fit is up they are gleefudown they are gleeful, if it is up they need prozac. >> i'm surprised they let joe biden out of the bunker and took the ball and gag out of his mouth and put him back on the campaign trail.

look, republicans have passed over 30 jobs bills in the house. they have stalled in the senate. they've done everything to try and get the economy back on track. harry reid the democratic senate leader won't bring them to the floor. i would point out, martha what when he does bring bills to the floor, that are obama's jobs bills they fail. they include taxing the rich, whether it's obama's budget or jobs bill, they fail because even democrats vote against them. this is just politicsing saying republicans don't want the economy to get better. martha: when you look at who americans are blaming and what they are thinking out there, there is some interesting numbers that came out from the hill yesterday with regard to change that was expected after president obama took office. let's take a look at some of these numbers. you guys may have spoken about these last night. it says that 56%, the question is, has president obama changed america for the better or for the worst? 56% said for the worst, bob. >> yeah, i mean, look it's been a rough four years, of course they are considered worse.

the question is, are you better oven you were four years ago, that is a little different. listen, let's put it this way. answer me this question, my dear friend, if unemployment dropped to 4% next month, do you think there is a vote, a secret vote in the house of representatives, the republicans would vote for it? >> politically if unemployment goes down and we've had this debate, it does -- republicans have a very tough argument to make. when unemployment was at 5% when bush was in office nancy pelosi was screaming on the house floor that it was just too high. democrats they controlled the house, the senate, the white house they passed a number of different things. >> you missed my question. >> bob, bob and they put in place, they spent $851 billion on a stimulus bill that created jobs in other countries. in mexico, if finland. >> do you believe the republicans caucus should be happy about seeing unemployment drop? martha: everybody would be happen here about 4% unemployment and they'd figure out something else to argue

about. speaking of arguing and pointing figures and all that. let's take a look at this sound byte. this is from chris christie. it's a little bit of a turn from our conversation. i want to get your thoughts on this. let's play him from wred. >> please, don't send me any more money to hire any more public employees. i don't need any more. i have plenty as it is. i don't need any more. they are extraordinarily expensive and extraordinary lee difficult to manage and the idea that we continue, you know, to have to deal with some of these issues, i think because of the federal intervention, if the president and the congress want to spend money on something that will create jobs, then spend money on infrastructure what builds private sector jobs, don't spend money on sending me money to hire more public employees. martha: don't use stimulus, don't send me money and do it for public employees he says. that's the crux, that's the central issue i think of this election.

>> he also said, let's do the infrastructure which the republicans have blocked. does that include the two pilots who flew him to his son's baseball game? >> here we go. martha: that is an old, old, old story for which i believe he apologized. can we live in the present for a moment. >> if you're going to mess with chris christie, don't mess with him when he has an ice cream cone on the boardwalk. martha: sterotypes at the jersey store are all wrong being from new jersey and that is so clear being from new jersey. >> say the jersey shore is clean? >> it's very clean. >> oh, yeah. >> to your point, mart that. there are so many governors, mostly republicans saying please federal government don't make me assume all these budgetary costs that we will have to provide for every single year. they are trying to get their fiscal books in order. the federal government and obamacare is also a part of it. >> i never met a governor who

turned down a federal dollar in my life. martha: thank you guys. happy to see you. happy anniversary again. we'll see you tonight. bill: a lovely sight. new warning from the former head of the u.n. about syria. why he says iran must get involved now? is that the right move? kt mcfarland weighs in on that. martha: she is one tough 93-year-old. how she survived for hours in her car, alone, after a terrible accident. >> well, all i can say just keep your head. don't panic, because that's what is going to get you.

martha: this is an inspirational survival story of a woman trapped in her car for eleven hours in that blistering heat.

meet 93-year-old jenavieve couch. her car plunged 60 feet from a california embankment and she was stranded. she tried to get out but both sides of the cars' front doors were blocked by a tree and surrounded by prickley bushes. >> i tried my door on the driver's side but there was a tree where i couldn't open it. i rolled ali wasn't scared. i was dying for a drink of water. i couldn't even find a piece of candy or a piece of gum. martha: she was finally spotted, thankfully by some passers by who called the police and gave them her exact location and she is doing okay. she should all be doing as okay as her at 93. she is smart. she says you have to keep your wits about you and can't panic in a situation like that. bill: former head of the u.n.

kofi annan warning about a disaster, saying iran must be part of the solution. kt mcfarland a national security analyst, k. t. good morning to you. syria and iran and russia. everyone has a stake in this it seems. why do you think that kofi annan is like a compulsive gla gambler? >> the former u.n. chief kofi annan he thinks if he sits down at that gambling table one more time his luck will turn and he's going to get lucky and he's going to get a dole on syria. he's not going to get a deal on syria, certainly not from iran. the iranians are going to talk and talk about how they are k-g are going to help with their ally syria, especially because they want to curry some favor because we are going to impose banking and oil sanctions on them. they won't be able to do anything. the road to damascus isn't

through teheran, it's through moscow and the russian leadership. that's where we need to go if you're going to get any changes. bill: moscow has blocked u.n. effort to cripple syria with more sanctions. they've got even in the way of all this. >> yeah, and here is the thing. i don't know if you remember, about two years agent united states, president obama canceled the missile shield the united states had planned for europe. and you asked me, we were on the show and you asked me, what did we get for that? we didn't get anything for it. we should have kept it and traded it. now it would be really very useful to have that trade to trade the missile shield for russian help on syria. but we don't have that option. now will the russians come through? not the way the obama administration is approaching it. as secretary clinton has tried to scold vladimir putin of russia she has tried to shame him into helping syria. any man who has a facelift, botox and rides around bare-chested and gets a photo

shoot riding around bare-chested on a horse, he's the guy that cares what the world thinks of him. if you scold him he's going to dig in hide der. the better way to approach him is transactional, or say you have interests in syria, keep those interests but help us get rid of -- bill: one more thing here. do you see any hope for this being resolved or are we going to stand on the outside and allow the killing to continue. >> there is one glimmer of hope in the last couple of days. the russians today, or this week are welcoming the syrian opposition leaders. they also talked maybe about canceling some of the armed shipments to syria. if there is a little bit of an indication that the russians see this as a tkweupbd lynn asset in syria they may want to chain. bill: good to have you 0 on. nice to see you. martha: lawmakers are set to debate a new healthcare repeal effort in a few hours from now. today we're asking you, do you favor repealing healthcare? more than 2,000 of you have already weighed in, and you can too. head to foxnews.com. we'll be right back. [ manager 1 ] out here in the winds,

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